popular mayor of newark, new jersey. i think he's a harvard university graduate. could've gone into other yars, he decided he wanted to do this. and as you point out, you know, he's very active in social media, got a large following out there on twitter. i know i follow him on twitter, watch see what he's up to. but there have been some highly publicized cases where he's run into dangerous areas to try to do something. and that certainly has helped his reputation. so i think he's in -- if frank lautenberg retires, decides he's not going to run for reelection, cory booker's got a good chance of becoming a united states senator. >> and frank lautenberg, isn't it sort of popularly known at his age right now, he is highly considered stepping down -- >> he's almost 90 years old. >> i'm looking for it on the wires, or 89. turning 89 in january. >> i've known him for long time. he's a great guy. and he's still very active. still very lively. he's got legislation that he wants to introduce on guns. still pretty active. you know, you're getting to be 90 years old, maybe th